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BE ADVISED! VIDA detects any module replacement or addition!
#61
Two more data points:

I changed my camera module ,not detected at dealer
I added towing module, the dealer just aid I had towbar without prog and offered to buy the software, I said no and just reprogram through Orbit

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#62
If you are referring to Camera itself and just replacement of an existing camera, VIDA would not detect it as an HW change. However, it might detect a retrofit OEM reverse camera as HW change and force to reload reverse camera software before allowing total upgrade just like it did for my retrofit plug and play IMS. (alarm motion sensor). 

If you are talking about 360 WAM module, your car was already equipped with it and replacement WAM has the same or equivalent part / HW number as the original. That's why VIDA wouldn't have detected it as HW change. 

Regarding the towing module, 
Same as my situation for added IMS module. I had reverted all config to OEM but left the IMS connected and VIDA detected it as HW change and I had two options before I could install total upgrade. 
1) IMS reload costs $250 > That makes it OEM config. 
2) IMS remove costs $35
Although I removed (disconnected) the IMS module, did a fresh VIDA install on another laptop, did a fresh VIDA reload but it still showed the HW changes with the IMS disconnected.  
At the end,  I installed IMS remove (paid $35), only then I could install total upgrade. Once all finished, I connected the IMS back, changed the config with IMS via Orbit, everything worked again.   

Not sure if your dealer installed total upgrade during your visit. Maybe dealer's VIDA account is different than independent shop or personal account and allows total upgrade regardless of the detected HW changes.
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#63
Well shit. Sitting at Volvo service center and i thought i did everything according to the book.

1. replaced HK with HP amplifer
2. disconnected canbus from electric chairs.
3. reset car with orbit.


Car got blocked because of freaking module in my roof module (same unit as front roof light) Had this changed as i changed roof liner to black.

That is however the only bs we have come across yet, following other accessories are still connected without fault:

Backup camera
Keyless entry
4x doorcards with high-illumination
drive mode selector

Technician is gonna see if he can get the car unblocked with the help of another tech, ill keep the thread posted on what the resolution was :')
V60 2020 
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#64
Are you sure that your car is blocked? 
Volvo does not block the car for replaced equipment, it just displays them under Hardware change tab and forces to purchase "<ECU> reload"  before allowing total upgrade. 
It still allows to purchase any software except total upgrade. 

VOLVO blocks the car if VIDA detects if the car's configuration is altered. Since you've restored to OEM, it should not happen. 
It may still force you to reload the added equipment though.
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#65
(01-31-2025, 07:27 AM)IMAY2023 Wrote: Are you sure that your car is blocked? 
Volvo does not block the car for replaced equipment, it just displays them under Hardware change tab and forces to purchase "<ECU> reload"  before allowing total upgrade. 
It still allows to purchase any software except total upgrade. 

VOLVO blocks the car if VIDA detects if the car's configuration is altered. Since you've restored to OEM, it should not happen. 
It may still force you to reload the added equipment though.

Sorry i used wrong terminology, you are correct. If i buy a new module within spec it will release the car.

Also my replaced door module was also accepted.
V60 2020 
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#66
(01-31-2025, 07:27 AM)IMAY2023 Wrote: Are you sure that your car is blocked? 
Volvo does not block the car for replaced equipment, it just displays them under Hardware change tab and forces to purchase "<ECU> reload"  before allowing total upgrade. 
It still allows to purchase any software except total upgrade. 

VOLVO blocks the car if VIDA detects if the car's configuration is altered. Since you've restored to OEM, it should not happen. 
It may still force you to reload the added equipment though.

Reading this with new eyes. 

In this case with the roof module i think i got it from a XC90 and since the hardware was not withing spec the car will not update, so im goint to have to get a new light for my next service as i need this latest upgrade to not lose car connectivity (Sweden is shutting down 3G 2027) 

But question now is.. as i have issues with my RR lock freezing in winter time and LF lock i need to pull twice to open.. if i get new locks from junkyard with same volvo-article number but 2024/2025, this should not hinder upgrade right? i want to get as new as i can as these should be "fixed" from having freezing issues etc etc.
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#67
Quote:In this case with the roof module i think i got it from a XC90 and since the hardware was not withing spec the car will not update, so im goint to have to get a new light for my next service as i need this latest upgrade to not lose car connectivity (Sweden is shutting down 3G 2027) 
You have two options. 
1) Install the original module and purchase and reload "configuration change" for 0.01 USD. This software reread all the installed modules on the car and compare and update (remove the recorded ECU change) the VOLVO db. 

2) Order and install the replaced "ECU" reload that appears in the HW change TAB. However, it may or may not install it. It depends on Part#  or one of its Supersessions is listed for your VIN.  Keep in mind the software reloads are not cheap. starting from 50 USD.  

The part number  31479612  is the whole panel and not the controller. If you still have the original panel, What you should do is that. 
Disassemble everything from both the original and new panels and install the the original controller to the new panel. Then, perform the first step above. 

Quote:But question now is.. as i have issues with my RR lock freezing in winter time and LF lock i need to pull twice to open.. if i get new locks from junkyard with same volvo-article number but 2024/2025, this should not hinder upgrade right? i want to get as new as i can as these should be "fixed" from having freezing issues etc etc.

Replacing mechanical parts, sensors, complete AC unit (not the controller) and etc, does not require any software reload. In Fact, VIDA does not even know it. You can even replace your seats as long as you move the original seat controller from the old one to the new one. 
VIDA only detects ECU changes and retrofitted Alarm sensors.   
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#68
Hi,
I recently bought an XC60 from China.
The previous owner installed power seats (ventilation, heating, massage) and a 360-degree camera system — these features are reflected in the car's configuration.
He also installed air suspension with a custom control module; it’s not shown in the configuration but responds to drive mode changes.

Are there any possibilities to get a total upgrade, or at least upgrade the IHU to support Android Auto? (I would also like to update the gearbox software, but I’m not very optimistic about that.)
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#69
It all depends on how he had installed  (ventilation, heating, massage) and a 360-degree camera system
If the previous owner had changed the car's configuration in the CEM in order to control the new seats from the center screen, then you have a problem.  As soon as you connect the VIDA to the car it would block the car for software download. 

For 360 degree camera, it depends on the type. Original WAM or third party aftermarket system.  If it's WAM, most likely the previous owner changed the config for it too. So, you are in the same situation as above. I am almost certain VIDA would not reload an ECU (WAM) on a car that did not come from factory because it's not offered as optional add on. 
If the 360 system is aftermarket third party, it has not effect on VIDA because VIDA does not see that added equipment. It's between IHU and central display to change the what center screen displays.  

 
air suspension is most likely third party connected to drive mode switch to capture massages and behave accordingly. So, you should not have any problems with it. 

Get in touch with the previous owner and ask how exactly those retrofits are done before connecting the car to VIDA.  
If your gets blocked, VOLVO would not lift the restriction until all modifications are reverted to OEM. 
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#70
(Yesterday, 07:52 PM)IMAY2023 Wrote: It all depends on how he had installed  (ventilation, heating, massage) and a 360-degree camera system
If the previous owner had changed the car's configuration in the CEM in order to control the new seats from the center screen, then you have a problem.  As soon as you connect the VIDA to the car it would block the car for software download. 

For 360 degree camera, it depends on the type. Original WAM or third party aftermarket system.  If it's WAM, most likely the previous owner changed the config for it too. So, you are in the same situation as above. I am almost certain VIDA would not reload an ECU (WAM) on a car that did not come from factory because it's not offered as optional add on. 
If the 360 system is aftermarket third party, it has not effect on VIDA because VIDA does not see that added equipment. It's between IHU and central display to change the what center screen displays.  

 
air suspension is most likely third party connected to drive mode switch to capture massages and behave accordingly. So, you should not have any problems with it. 

Get in touch with the previous owner and ask how exactly those retrofits are done before connecting the car to VIDA.  
If your gets blocked, VOLVO would not lift the restriction until all modifications are reverted to OEM. 
I checked the configs and compared the current one with the original.
The power seats (ventilation, heating, massage) and the 360-degree camera system are changed in the config,
but the air suspension is not.


If I revert to VIDA’s original config, I receive errors. I was told that VIDA will stop updates if it detects errors and differences between the config and the actual equipment.
Unfortunately, I bought the car from another country, so I can’t contact the seller.
I’m looking for some kind of bypass to get all the updates.
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