First config change to S60 MY23 worked fine but result partially

[jos]

Hi,

Today, I changed the configuration of my Volvo S60 B5 AWD Ultimate Dark MY23 (Volvo UX 5.0.5) for the first time.

These are the settings I modified:

• 043 Max Vehicle Speed Limitation from 180 to 250 (untested, not possible yet)
  
• 096 Audible Locking Feedback set to On (unfortunately not working) 
  
• 271 Start/Stop Function Memory set to “Button without memory, standard symbol” (I don’t know where to find the switch.
  The car still turns the engine on/off as expected with this setting, but where the hell is that switch/button in the menus?)
  
• 374 Polestar Level set to “Polestar optimized” (had a short drive, can’t say much yet). 
  

The flashing process completed successfully and everything looked good—there were some funny noises from the car during the read/write process. 
So, why isn’t the audible locking feedback working? I refer to this: https://forums.spaycetech.com/showthread...65#pid8665
And does anyone have an idea where to find the switch to turn the start/stop system off for the current drive? @BeachBoy?

Orbit ask for profile update (i had a virgin) so it updated and then my changes took place, flashing took about ~2 min afai remember right, everything was smooth.
My battery was only at 63% with 12,6V starting later around 12V, i had a lab power supply connected 13,6V at 20A, the power supply jumped two times from CC to CV so the car sucks a lot  


Best Regards JOS

[jos]

Hi,

today i could test VMax, which i have set to 250, at 185…186 still end.
It feels like that none of config changes worked even when Orbit said flash successfully, i‘ve watched the entire process and everything worked fine.

What can i do?


Best Regards JOS

[Sodertalje]

Hi,

today i could test VMax, which i have set to 250, at 185…186 still end.
It feels like that none of config changes worked even when Orbit said flash successfully, i‘ve watched the entire process and everything worked fine.

What can i do?


Best Regards JOS

If you have a Long Range car with Android (basically MY2022 and newer), do not set the vMax higher than 230 km/h. Driving faster than 230 km/h will result in overheating of the ERAD and put your car in limp mode. It will cool down and reset, but permanent damage can occur in time.

[jos]

Ok, good to know, but this means 250 wont work and its still at the old vmax?

[Sodertalje]

Ok, good to know, but this means 250 wont work and its still at the old vmax?

You can set it at 250, but you'll probably never reach it because your ERAD will overheat above 230 km/h. Use at your own risk. I know someone who did this and was towed to a dealer. Because the process took a long time, the car was cooled down and started as if nothing had happened. The dealer tried to run some updates, and the car was blocked immediately. Modification was not done with OrBit, but you can avoid all this by not setting it higher than 230 km/h.

[jos]

Ok, good to know, i will keep it at 230 instead of 250 but this is all senseless if none of the settings i did are effective. Is Orbit not usable for recent volvo cars or why are not only me finding none change after a config change.

I expected that at leadt pne of the settings i did works but its like i changed nothing.


Best Regards JOS

[Power6]

• 043 Max Vehicle Speed Limitation from 180 to 250 (untested, not possible yet)
  
• 096 Audible Locking Feedback set to On (unfortunately not working) 
  
• 271 Start/Stop Function Memory set to “Button without memory, standard symbol” (I don’t know where to find the switch.
  The car still turns the engine on/off as expected with this setting, but where the hell is that switch/button in the menus?)
  
• 374 Polestar Level set to “Polestar optimized” (had a short drive, can’t say much yet). 
  

I got your message to support, so we will work out if there are any specific issues, like the speed limiter setting should absolutely work! I will make some notes though, for other following here, some of the issues here we know. First this is assuming settings are confirmed by connecting to the car in OrBit, and check the config read from the car matches what you changed. If the config wasn't written, then that is some different issue like a config flashing failure.

Audible locking feedback - It requires the car has a BBS module, which is the alarm siren. That is in the car if it is equipped with an "alarm" from the factory. If the car is not equipped, then it doesn't have a BBS module, so there is nothing to make the sounds for audible locking feedback.

Start/Stop function memory - This only works for ICE drivetrains in Sensus car. You have the Android MHEV. For this car you can use the "No button - always off" setting to disable start/stop completely. If the car is updated to 5.0.5 system or newer, you can use the "Button - no memory" setting now, to add a temporary disable start/stop slider to the car settings menus. The Config Wizard is helpful here, it only enables supported settings in the radio buttons you can choose.

Polestar Level - effects vary on the cars, some maybe none at all. You should always see the "Polestar Engineered" drive mode in the car settings with this change, you can confirm the config change is actually made. I beleive that is the case on all Android cars, where some Sensus cars were without drive modes.

Speed Limiter we'll look at as a support case with you, there aren't any known limitations as far as the setting working.


FYI on the PHEV, the "230kmh" issue only applies to "Extended Range" PHEV. So not really related here as the OP has an MHEV mild-hyrbid but I will comment on it as it was brought up. It appears to be an "overspeed" warning, not an actual failure like overheating, but a specific maximum RPM soft limit in the ERAD that triggers the "hybrid failure" message that goes away after slowing down, then shut down and restart the car, from what those who can find the limit have told me ;-) We see it varies by the car, some can get up to 250kmh before the warning is triggered. My theory is the tire sizes between models vary the overall gear ratio of the ERAD motor to the road surface, so the speed the warning is triggered will vary. The extended range ERAD does not have a clutch as the previous versions, so the motor in the unit is always spinning at the current road speed as it is permenently engaged.

[jos]

I got your message to support, so we will work out if there are any specific issues, like the speed limiter setting should absolutely work! I will make some notes though, for other following here, some of the issues here we know. First this is assuming settings are confirmed by connecting to the car in OrBit, and check the config read from the car matches what you changed. If the config wasn't written, then that is some different issue like a config flashing failure.

I will check if the settings are in place an report back, while doing the first change everything optically went fine.

Audible locking feedback - It requires the car has a BBS module, which is the alarm siren. That is in the car if it is equipped with an "alarm" from the factory. If the car is not equipped, then it doesn't have a BBS module, so there is nothing to make the sounds for audible locking feedback.

I already asked somewhere else in the forum, i request the equipment list with the dealer is signed i couldn't find a copy and i will check if the siren is in place.

Start/Stop function memory - This only works for ICE drivetrains in Sensus car. You have the Android MHEV. For this car you can use the "No button - always off" setting to disable start/stop completely. If the car is updated to 5.0.5 system or newer, you can use the "Button - no memory" setting now, to add a temporary disable start/stop slider to the car settings menus. The Config Wizard is helpful here, it only enables supported settings in the radio buttons you can choose.

I tried that new chinese 5.0.5 setting but i searching everywhere i couldn't find the switch for this and i don't have a quick actions menu in my S60.
I will try no button no memory next time if the settings from first flash are in place, else i try it again (address why config wasn't changed if so).

Polestar Level - effects vary on the cars, some maybe none at all. You should always see the "Polestar Engineered" drive mode in the car settings with this change, you can confirm the config change is actually made. I beleive that is the case on all Android cars, where some Sensus cars were without drive modes.

Well i tried this just to possibly see an effect in gear switches and possibly the loss of gear changes while driving or going into curve. Not sure if there is an effect but first of all i should check if my settings from first try are really in place.

Speed Limiter we'll look at as a support case with you, there aren't any known limitations as far as the setting working.

Well i simply hope my first config change failed for some reason and next try works and everything comes in place, well see.

FYI on the PHEV, the "230kmh" issue only applies to "Extended Range" PHEV. So not really related here as the OP has an MHEV mild-hyrbid but I will comment on it as it was brought up. It appears to be an "overspeed" warning, not an actual failure like overheating, but a specific maximum RPM soft limit in the ERAD that triggers the "hybrid failure" message that goes away after slowing down, then shut down and restart the car, from what those who can find the limit have told me ;-) We see it varies by the car, some can get up to 250kmh before the warning is triggered. My theory is the tire sizes between models vary the overall gear ratio of the ERAD motor to the road surface, so the speed the warning is triggered will vary. The extended range ERAD does not have a clutch as the previous versions, so the motor in the unit is always spinning at the current road speed as it is permenently engaged.

Ok thanks to clarify this, i was a little afraid of this and wanted to go with something below 230 but if there is no problem 250 will be ok as max, i will never go as fast like this but everythign over 180 just the pure possibility is good

Is it recommended to leave the driver door open while config changes to keep the car awake or so?
While the first config change i had a steady power supple connected at 13,6V with 20A and had the window down a bit, door closed, cable connected, notebook on the root and made my changes and wrote em without any error. Power supply was two times for a short time in CC instead of CV but i think that were main power sucks from the car where the battery dropped in, it was at 62% while i was changing the config.


I get back to you.