Key coding

[STLiens]

I have been trying to program two used oem keys for my 2018 v90cc. The key batteries are new. Each time I try, I get a error. I have even tried with the key that is already programmed to my vehicle. In the message box it says

OrBit connected
Starting key programming
Key program command failed
Error ECU key response unexpected 

This problem has previously been reported in this thread with no responses.  
Is this error message an indication that my extracted CEM pin is insufficent and that an immobilizer pin is also required by the cem/ecu?
Do I need to use vida to program my used keys?

Having similar issue with same error codes. Using paid CEM and VGM pins from Spaycetech, not sure whether others are using their own extracted pins or paid.

Ive tried using the existing programmed one key which would presumably give an already programmed message; new batteries in fobs, and have re-added the CEM (level 1) and VGM (level 17) pins a few times but same message.


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