04-22-2024, 12:42 AM
Hello man,
my apologize for longer silence, due to some private life issues, was off last 2 months... Finally found some free time, to visit my friend experienced car electrician, well skilled like you , then i explained him what you suggested to do, and checking subw, and rest of speakers to see is there sound from amp, and sure by trying config with Orbit as you suggested,
so i'll go in order you replied to me, and provide you checking results , at least owe you post my findings for XC40 speakers config for this radio-map-speakers config - High performance audio called
Your car has total 9 speakers.
2 tweeters on the front pillars (L & R)
1 Center on the DASH
2 MID range on the front doors (L & R)
2 Woofers on the rear doors (L & R)
2 tweeters on the rear doors (L & R)
you will not believe, there is only 7 or let say 8x speakers, even it's called by Volvo for my VIN High performance audio , below are signs for config in my car, provided for my VIN from Volvo Vida system,
K502 - RADIO, AMP & SPEAKER SYSTEM High Performance audio
and
6E02 - AUDIO LEVEL AUDIO high
we realized this, when removed rear doors side panels, and behind it believe or not was empty space , just preparation like holders for rear doors woofers left & right, greed Volvo swedish guys , and generally whole time in front of car i felt much stronger sound than rear, then sudennly we just wanted check how are connected rear bottom speakers and tweeters, directly or indirectly , cause of planing if decide add new amp like Harman amp, and then we removed side panel and saw no any speakers - no bottom speakers on rear doors , then by VIN number and checking actual config, we found right part number, and I ordered 2x rear door speakers-woofers, like below part number,
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126129853477?fi...BMnNSOr-Bj
cause for K502 config, it's right part number 32265248
by VIN number we found following speakers config,
1. 2x tweeters on the front pillars (L & R) - this correct info by you
2. 2x speakers Center on the DASH , here looks like 2 speakers, as very loud sound comes from dash speakers, we didn't remove trim for dash, but looks like there 2x speakers, but not 100% sure, as didn't remove dash trim, but found some picture on internet, and it looks like this below
https://www.proxyparts.com/car-parts-sto.../15796233/
part no: 31456870 , or maybe this counted as 1x central speaker, but as you can see , trim + speakers, looks like 2x speakers, 1x bigger and 1x smaller
3. 2x MID range on the front doors (L & R) - this is correct info by you
4. 2 speakers or whatever they are called woofers on the rear doors (L & R) - these 2 missing , behind rear door panel empty space, just holders for rear door speakers available, but no speakers there
5. 2x tweeters on the rear doors (L & R) - this is correct info by you
6. 2x subwoofers in front of car or whatever called, we couldn't find where are they, but if you check on photo below for my VIN, they are somewhere in front, seems under fron pvc trims under windscreen, but we couldnt see them easy, but on picture below are shown,
https://i.imgur.com/LR33pjn.png
but they are definetely there 1 or 2, as is much louder sound in front, than rear, and can easy feel difference.
S by this looks this config has 10x speakers or 9x, if we count those 2x center dash speakers a s 1x speaker, and when i add these 2x woofers-bottom rear door speakers, will be in total 11 or 12x speakers .
But found this description at some Volvo XC40 forum,
Standard 8 speaker system
x1 Woofer in dash
x1 Speaker in centre top of dash
x2 Tweeters in A pillar
x2 Speakers in front doors
x2 Speakers in TOP rear doors
8 SPEAKERS in TOTAL
but not sure what's here called "standard", as there is usual 3-4x config, low-standard, high perform, HK and last BW, and this one at my car is High, 2nd level, and i feel 2x speakers in dash , or called subwoofers i see by part number, so in my case it will be 9x, if dash center is threated as 1x , and if i add these 2x rear door speakers, will have 11x speakers, and missing 2x roof speakers, and 1x subwoofer which usual suggested in trunk to install.
From same XC40 forum , someone posted for Harman config this,
Harmon Kardon System
8 Speakers as above but higher quality
Plus 5no additional speakers:
x2 Speakers in BOTTOM rear doors
x2 Speakers in rear roof
x1 Sub woofer in rear wheel arch
13 SPEAKERS in TOTAL
so, in my case as you wrote, this what i hear very good-strong sound in front of car, can be i have 1x subw at glovebox side - right side, and 1x subw on left side, but we couldn't see them easy on both sides, except they are well hidden behind those pvc panels.
According partslink24, as you told, it's correct there is 1x part number-same for left-right bottom speakers, and i ordered 2x such used speakers, as they are missing in car
So, i did as you suggested tested by my friend car experienced electrician, output from SUB woofer by enabling 201 - subwof, and we didn't get any sound, we pushed 2 wires in pin whole you told, and other to some standard speaker, and no any audio.
Seems Volvo EU wasn't so cheeky like in USA , we tested roof speakers same method, and no any sound, so seems in my case need replace AMP .
I tried too change in Orbit 028 - radio, amp from High perofrm to HK High perform Plus audio, but 0 points, no sound .
Yes, you are right that most of AUD-AMPs are shared with all models, and usual they use same AMP for more configs, but add more speakers , but here XC40 wasn't that case ... There was on this connector you thought 5x channels, it was 8x , but no sound from any of wholes, we tried all wholes ....
Talked by my friend who helped check all this, and he is experienced about car electronics, he suggested, let we first check these 2 additional rear bottom's doors speakers, and in total will be 10 or 11, depending of exact number actual speakers in my car, and to test if i'm satisfied by sound, and then decide to add 2x roof speakers, +subw in trunk and replace AMP-AUD with HK one, in front of car i'm well satisfied with sound quality, and think when add these 2x in rear OEM Volvo speakers, will be rear much better, as hear by some people not much diff with HK, these 10-11 vs HK 13x , sure B&W is much better, but 10-11x vs HK 13x hear not big diff, first i'll test as you told, am i satisfied with 2 more rear bottom speakers, and then decide will invest more or keep like that .
Thank you for such attitude, my lifestyle is same way, that will help anyone all i can help and will share my experience, knowledge, skills .
That's why posted all my findings now here, as will be useful for some other XC40 owners, that not have do all these checkings i did , in fact if we want subw, 2x roof speakers and HK config, we'll need replace AMP-AUD with HK one, and 2x roof speakers, subw, and will need do wiring-installation for roof speakers, subw, rest speakers think can be used these OEM already in car installed with 2nd level of speakers config.
my apologize for longer silence, due to some private life issues, was off last 2 months... Finally found some free time, to visit my friend experienced car electrician, well skilled like you , then i explained him what you suggested to do, and checking subw, and rest of speakers to see is there sound from amp, and sure by trying config with Orbit as you suggested,
so i'll go in order you replied to me, and provide you checking results , at least owe you post my findings for XC40 speakers config for this radio-map-speakers config - High performance audio called
Your car has total 9 speakers.
2 tweeters on the front pillars (L & R)
1 Center on the DASH
2 MID range on the front doors (L & R)
2 Woofers on the rear doors (L & R)
2 tweeters on the rear doors (L & R)
you will not believe, there is only 7 or let say 8x speakers, even it's called by Volvo for my VIN High performance audio , below are signs for config in my car, provided for my VIN from Volvo Vida system,
K502 - RADIO, AMP & SPEAKER SYSTEM High Performance audio
and
6E02 - AUDIO LEVEL AUDIO high
we realized this, when removed rear doors side panels, and behind it believe or not was empty space , just preparation like holders for rear doors woofers left & right, greed Volvo swedish guys , and generally whole time in front of car i felt much stronger sound than rear, then sudennly we just wanted check how are connected rear bottom speakers and tweeters, directly or indirectly , cause of planing if decide add new amp like Harman amp, and then we removed side panel and saw no any speakers - no bottom speakers on rear doors , then by VIN number and checking actual config, we found right part number, and I ordered 2x rear door speakers-woofers, like below part number,
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126129853477?fi...BMnNSOr-Bj
cause for K502 config, it's right part number 32265248
by VIN number we found following speakers config,
1. 2x tweeters on the front pillars (L & R) - this correct info by you
2. 2x speakers Center on the DASH , here looks like 2 speakers, as very loud sound comes from dash speakers, we didn't remove trim for dash, but looks like there 2x speakers, but not 100% sure, as didn't remove dash trim, but found some picture on internet, and it looks like this below
https://www.proxyparts.com/car-parts-sto.../15796233/
part no: 31456870 , or maybe this counted as 1x central speaker, but as you can see , trim + speakers, looks like 2x speakers, 1x bigger and 1x smaller
3. 2x MID range on the front doors (L & R) - this is correct info by you
4. 2 speakers or whatever they are called woofers on the rear doors (L & R) - these 2 missing , behind rear door panel empty space, just holders for rear door speakers available, but no speakers there
5. 2x tweeters on the rear doors (L & R) - this is correct info by you
6. 2x subwoofers in front of car or whatever called, we couldn't find where are they, but if you check on photo below for my VIN, they are somewhere in front, seems under fron pvc trims under windscreen, but we couldnt see them easy, but on picture below are shown,
https://i.imgur.com/LR33pjn.png
but they are definetely there 1 or 2, as is much louder sound in front, than rear, and can easy feel difference.
S by this looks this config has 10x speakers or 9x, if we count those 2x center dash speakers a s 1x speaker, and when i add these 2x woofers-bottom rear door speakers, will be in total 11 or 12x speakers .
But found this description at some Volvo XC40 forum,
Standard 8 speaker system
x1 Woofer in dash
x1 Speaker in centre top of dash
x2 Tweeters in A pillar
x2 Speakers in front doors
x2 Speakers in TOP rear doors
8 SPEAKERS in TOTAL
but not sure what's here called "standard", as there is usual 3-4x config, low-standard, high perform, HK and last BW, and this one at my car is High, 2nd level, and i feel 2x speakers in dash , or called subwoofers i see by part number, so in my case it will be 9x, if dash center is threated as 1x , and if i add these 2x rear door speakers, will have 11x speakers, and missing 2x roof speakers, and 1x subwoofer which usual suggested in trunk to install.
From same XC40 forum , someone posted for Harman config this,
Harmon Kardon System
8 Speakers as above but higher quality
Plus 5no additional speakers:
x2 Speakers in BOTTOM rear doors
x2 Speakers in rear roof
x1 Sub woofer in rear wheel arch
13 SPEAKERS in TOTAL
so, in my case as you wrote, this what i hear very good-strong sound in front of car, can be i have 1x subw at glovebox side - right side, and 1x subw on left side, but we couldn't see them easy on both sides, except they are well hidden behind those pvc panels.
According partslink24, as you told, it's correct there is 1x part number-same for left-right bottom speakers, and i ordered 2x such used speakers, as they are missing in car
So, i did as you suggested tested by my friend car experienced electrician, output from SUB woofer by enabling 201 - subwof, and we didn't get any sound, we pushed 2 wires in pin whole you told, and other to some standard speaker, and no any audio.
Seems Volvo EU wasn't so cheeky like in USA , we tested roof speakers same method, and no any sound, so seems in my case need replace AMP .
I tried too change in Orbit 028 - radio, amp from High perofrm to HK High perform Plus audio, but 0 points, no sound .
Yes, you are right that most of AUD-AMPs are shared with all models, and usual they use same AMP for more configs, but add more speakers , but here XC40 wasn't that case ... There was on this connector you thought 5x channels, it was 8x , but no sound from any of wholes, we tried all wholes ....
Talked by my friend who helped check all this, and he is experienced about car electronics, he suggested, let we first check these 2 additional rear bottom's doors speakers, and in total will be 10 or 11, depending of exact number actual speakers in my car, and to test if i'm satisfied by sound, and then decide to add 2x roof speakers, +subw in trunk and replace AMP-AUD with HK one, in front of car i'm well satisfied with sound quality, and think when add these 2x in rear OEM Volvo speakers, will be rear much better, as hear by some people not much diff with HK, these 10-11 vs HK 13x , sure B&W is much better, but 10-11x vs HK 13x hear not big diff, first i'll test as you told, am i satisfied with 2 more rear bottom speakers, and then decide will invest more or keep like that .
Thank you for such attitude, my lifestyle is same way, that will help anyone all i can help and will share my experience, knowledge, skills .
That's why posted all my findings now here, as will be useful for some other XC40 owners, that not have do all these checkings i did , in fact if we want subw, 2x roof speakers and HK config, we'll need replace AMP-AUD with HK one, and 2x roof speakers, subw, and will need do wiring-installation for roof speakers, subw, rest speakers think can be used these OEM already in car installed with 2nd level of speakers config.