Successfully installed B&W in MY18 XC60 but...

[83Greven]

Had the system up and running for + 2 years know, the hardest part except finding a wire schedule was to find a used amp from a XC60. Always installed the high performance amp (optic and power) and the oem SW before service. So far so good...

But - is there any way in 2026 to have the B&W listed as oem in the car so VIDA don't kicks back? I know that there are +99 threads about this matter but can't figure it out as people say all sort of things.

[IMAY2023]

Short answer NO.
2026 B&W are gen2 and the wiring is different. Front doors have 3 individual channels (H, M, and L), Dash center has 2 individual channels (H and M) and rear doors have 2 individual channels (L and M+H).

On the other hand,
If your used B&W gen1 came from a 60 series car and you are sure of it, you should be able to purchase and install AUD reload software via VIDA that will change your config to Premium audio make your upgrade official.

I cannot do it because my replacement B&W AUD came from a 90 series. The channel outputs on rear doors are different and it is not possible to change the config on the B&W AUD. (software is also different). That's why VIDA would not reload it for my car. So, I rewired the rear doors to have the (MID + HIGH) channels and added MID speakers to my 2019 s60's rear doors.

[83Greven]

Short answer NO.
2026 B&W are gen2 and the wiring is different.  Front doors have 3 individual channels (H, M, and L), Dash center has 2 individual channels (H and M) and rear doors have 2 individual channels (L and M+H). 

On the other hand,
If your used B&W gen1 came from a 60 series car and you are sure of it, you should be able to purchase and install AUD reload software via VIDA that will change your config to Premium audio make your upgrade official.

I cannot do it because my replacement B&W AUD came from a 90 series. The channel outputs on rear doors are different and it is not possible to change the config on the B&W AUD. (software is also different). That's why VIDA would not reload it for my car. So,  I rewired the rear doors to have the (MID + HIGH) channels and added MID speakers to my 2019 s60's rear doors.

Well, could work and will work includes a lot of doubts. I need a definite 100% answer so I can proceed and hook up the car to Vida. 

Tha amp is also from a XC60, the only things I needed to do was to install the wiring for the sub, rear roof speakers and center speakers and then move some pins by the amp + speakers itself + orbit.

[x119]

Volvo knows what should be in your car; that's software and hardware IDs. If you're not OEM then you'll be blocked.

[IMAY2023]

Volvo knows what should be in your car; that's software and hardware IDs. If you're not OEM then you'll be blocked.

This is not true at all. 
VOLVO does not block the car for software downloads if a wrong or a new or used  ECU / module is installed on car.  It just does not let to install total upgrade until all items under HW changes is cleared. 
I replaced my headlight modules with a used Bendy ones (mark H) while my original ones were marked L with used full led bendy headlights.  VIDA detected ECU changes, I installed HCM reload and could install total upgrade after that. 

I replaced my faulty 2019 IHU with a used one came from 2022 s60.  I could not download any app or update the maps. I connected VIDA, it detected IHU change and market certificate. 
I installed market certificate change software via VIDA for $90. IHU reload was $180. After installing the market change certificate, the IHU reload under HW changes was cleared automatically and I can now update my maps and install apps from Sensus.  If my car had been blocked by VOLVO like you said, I wouldn't be able to do any of those. 

Another point, 
You can replace non-security related ECUs to diagnose a problem like CCM, HCM, AUD, IHU, WAM, Seat and door modules for diagnoses (faulty ECU) VIDA would detect HW changes but you can always install the original ECU back then install "configuration test" which will clear the HW changes then VIDA will let you install total upgrade. 

Let's say. You have a HK AUD on your s60 and you found B&W AUD (gen1) from another s60. You can install it and VIDA would install AUD reload. But if the new B&W AUD (gen1) came from 90 series, VIDA would not install AUD reload because 60 series B&W and 90 series B&W has different output channels with different internal software.  

VOLVO blocks the car totally for software installations only if VIDA detects un official configuration changes like Orbit or V-DASH does.

[Power6]

I think you are off a bit, I will clarify some things. As always I could be wrong on it, it's Volvos VIDA system we don't make it, just learn about, if you disagree let me know, but we DO have a lot of experience through use and helping customers with the car compatibility to VIDA.

I replaced my headlight modules with a used Bendy ones (mark H) while my original ones were marked L with used full led bendy headlights.  VIDA detected ECU changes, I installed HCM reload and could install total upgrade after that. 

It's not the same situation as the B&W AUD. There is more nuance to it. The HCMs are a situation where the "bendy" and "non-bendy" part are compatible with the car as far as VIDA is concerned. The "non-bendy" HCM (MID) is nearly the same part as the "bendy" HCM (HIGH), just missing a few components for cheaper assembly at the factory. Volvo does not offer a "MID" as a replacement part, they only sell the "HIGH" module for all cars. In your case, VIDA will see the part as compatible with the car, so it will reload it. Both MID and HIGH HCMs use the same software and the HIGH module works without issue in all the cars, with or without bending. 

I replaced my faulty 2019 IHU with a used one came from 2022 s60.  I could not download any app or update the maps. I connected VIDA, it detected IHU change and market certificate. 
I installed market certificate change software via VIDA for $90. IHU reload was $180. After installing the market change certificate, the IHU reload under HW changes was cleared automatically and I can now update my maps and install apps from Sensus.  If my car had been blocked by VOLVO like you said, I wouldn't be able to do any of those. 

This is another case, the 2019-up IHU parts are likely all seen as compatible for the car, use the same software, so VIDA will reload the module.

Let's say. You have a HK AUD on your s60 and you found B&W AUD (gen1) from another s60. You can install it and VIDA would install AUD reload. But if the new B&W AUD (gen1) came from 90 series, VIDA would not install AUD reload because 60 series B&W and 90 series B&W has different output channels with different internal software.  

The AUD is a different case. The B&W AUD is not a compatible part for the H/K car. It is a different hardware, that uses different software. VIDA will consider the part not compatible, it doesn't matter about 90 or 60 series AUD in your case. So you can't load it, VIDA will not let you order a reload for it. The reason is that VIDA goes by the variant codes of the car, if the car is built as H/K (K504 High Perf Pro audio) then VIDA will consider the B&W AUD not compatible HW. If the car is built as B&W (K503 Premium Audio) then VIDA would consider the AUD compatible.

But you can't change the variant codes in Volvo's system. There was a time (before Jun 2022) where you could do that, but it's long since gone, if you change the variant codes in the car, Volvo will block the car. Prior to that time, I was able to update my car into VIDA and reload the B&W AUD on my 2019 S60 (originally H/K). Then in June of 2022, Volvo blocked my car due to "VDN manipulation" ;-)

That is what X119 refers to as far as blocking. Volvo (so far) never blocks cars for module swaps, but you may not be able to reload those modules and get the car to the point that Total Upgrade or Service 2.0 is possible, based on the compatibility of what modules you have swapped.

Annoyingly this case also applies to the Crystal knob shifter (EGSM) which I have swapped in my car. Because the car is not built with it, does not have the variant for Crystal knob, VIDA will not reload it or generate the Total Upgrade, despite the 2 EGSM parts being nearly the same module, use exact same software and all, but the part number differs with the Crystal knob and VIDA won't have it. 

VOLVO blocks the car totally for software installations only if VIDA detects un official configuration changes like Orbit or V-DASH does.

That is not correct! Cars do not get blocked by OrBit config, and they never have. Because we don't change the variants/VDNs in the car, so there is no change for Volvo to find there. It's always recommended to Restore to OEM, to be safe and avoid strange happenings. But Volvo has not ever blocked any car for config changes via OrBit, and they may never do it, due to the difficulty of it, it's complicated if they wanted to do it, but that's a story for another day.

[jos]

Well i think the danger of possible wrong car blocks could accour and the bad reputation for the brand at least in the enthusiast corner.