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RE: Key coding - nlis - 06-21-2024
(06-20-2024, 07:51 PM)whor22 Wrote: Last week I tried to program a new key. I have two used keys. but the Orbit 11level code could not be calculated, and programming the key is not possible. I tried three times, same result
Pin Extract failed
Error Reason: Error getting data from the CEM
XC40 2018 D4 AWD R-Design
p.s. is there any hope for a solution? I really hoped that this would work in my car. I really need this option. Now I'm upset
Same situation in the XC60 2022. Some CEMs are not supported, and it's not only the ones from early production
RE: Key coding - R1maS - 06-21-2024
(06-20-2024, 07:51 PM)whor22 Wrote: Last week I tried to program a new key. I have two used keys. but the Orbit 11level code could not be calculated, and programming the key is not possible. I tried three times, same result
Pin Extract failed
Error Reason: Error getting data from the CEM
XC40 2018 D4 AWD R-Design
p.s. is there any hope for a solution? I really hoped that this would work in my car. I really need this option. Now I'm upset
Can confirm the case with XC40 - tried 2 cars with OrBit, no success.
RE: Key coding - volvo.man - 06-21-2024
Not all CEMs are supported for pin retrieval. That was initially announced
RE: Key coding - Power6 - 06-21-2024
Yes this correct. OrBit can program keys on any car, BUT retrieving the "Security PIN" that is needed to do it, is only possible on the CEMs that have the '5748G' processor. We can't retrieve it from the '5646B' or '5646C' based units.
Generally 2017 and earlier not suported. Some 2018 and most 2019+. It depends for the newer models if they are spec'd with the HIGH CEM (supported) vs the MID CEM (not supported). In some markets like the US all the cars look to have the HIGH CEM 2019-up.
Some newer cars in other markets though, have an updated MID spec CEM using the old processor, which isn't supported.
It's complicated to just have a simple statement about it (see above lol), you can't just tell if the car has a supported CEM, so that's why I had to handle it through OrBit checking and reporting if supported. And even THAT has gone through a couple updates, to not give false hope saying the CEM is supported and then fail the extract :-(
RE: Key coding - cpchriste - 08-09-2024
I have been trying to program two used oem keys for my 2018 v90cc. The key batteries are new. Each time I try, I get a error. I have even tried with the key that is already programmed to my vehicle. In the message box it says
OrBit connected
Starting key programming
Key program command failed
Error ECU key response unexpected
This problem has previously been reported in this thread with no responses.
Is this error message an indication that my extracted CEM pin is insufficent and that an immobilizer pin is also required by the cem/ecu?
Do I need to use vida to program my used keys?
Key coding - STLiens - 08-20-2024
(08-09-2024, 08:47 PM)cpchriste Wrote: I have been trying to program two used oem keys for my 2018 v90cc. The key batteries are new. Each time I try, I get a error. I have even tried with the key that is already programmed to my vehicle. In the message box it says
OrBit connected
Starting key programming
Key program command failed
Error ECU key response unexpected
This problem has previously been reported in this thread with no responses.
Is this error message an indication that my extracted CEM pin is insufficent and that an immobilizer pin is also required by the cem/ecu?
Do I need to use vida to program my used keys?
Having similar issue with same error codes. Using paid CEM and VGM pins from Spaycetech, not sure whether others are using their own extracted pins or paid.
Ive tried using the existing programmed one key which would presumably give an already programmed message; new batteries in fobs, and have re-added the CEM (level 1) and VGM (level 17) pins a few times but same message.
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RE: Key coding - x119 - 08-21-2024
Suggest emailing support(at)spaycetech.com and Power6 will be able to look at logs. It might simply be, that your cars aren't supported. There is a post above which sets out some of the parameters for Key Programming.
RE: Key coding - András - 08-29-2024
Hello,
I bought a "sport" key from Ali, after coding I am experiencing the following; it will not open the doors (keyless entry), nor start the car, unless the key is placed inside the cup holder.
Am I right to assume that the key battery is low? The car did not give me any notification of low battery, but I did not run it for long with this new fob.
RE: Key coding - danthe88 - 08-29-2024
dead battery
RE: Key coding - András - 08-29-2024
(08-29-2024, 08:14 PM)danthe88 Wrote: dead battery
ahh, then the issues with seller begin
