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What are PINs, why do I need a PIN, how do I get a PIN? - Power6 - 07-16-2023
If you are new to Volvo/Polestar you may have questions about PINs...
The way the car and ECUs are secured in a Volvo is similar to other manufacturers, but also some things are specific to the way Volvo does things.
OrBit can change "configurations" or also what is sometimes called "coding" on a supported Volvo or Polestar car. That is the reason 99.9% of people buy OrBit ;-) OrBit is the tool, but also you need security access to your car to be able to modify configuration. Various modules and parts of the software in the car are secured with something called a "PIN" in the Volvo world. PINs are like a password. There are many PINs to access different parts of the car, but for most you will be concerned only with the PINs to change configuration.
The configuration is stored in the Central Electronic Module (CEM), and access is required to the CEM that allows that config to be changed. Volvo was has been using "unique" CEM PINs for a many generations of cars. Other mfrs you are familiar with may have not used "unique" access secrets in the past, but most have started to do this lately, it has become more common. Each car has a different CEM PIN. Volvo knows it, VIDA uses the PINs for service access, but owners are not given security access secrets to their own car. To get access you need to obtain the needed unique PIN(s) for your own car. There are two different requirements for PINs needed within the "SPA" and "CMA" chassis generation of Volvo and Polestar.
1. "Sensus" car - All Volvos (and Polestar 1) SPA/CMA with the Sensus infotainment system.
- These cars need the "CEM PIN" (this is the common term as it is known in the Volvo world).
2. "Android" car - All Volvos (and Polestar 2) SPA/CMA with the newer Android (aka Google, AAOS, or "iCup") infotainment system.
- These cars need the "CEM PIN" same as a Sensus car.
- And also they need a "VGM PIN", required to unlock a new Diagnostic Firewall for advanced functions, this was introduced with the Android system.
You have a couple options normally to obtain the PINs:
- "DIY" process where you subscribe to the service software (Volvo or Polestar VIDA) then run a process on the car with that and capture the PIN information which you can "crack" with OrBit. That process is described here: https://forums.spaycetech.com/showthread.php?tid=2. This is a good process for those who have access to VIDA, North American users especially and some others in the rest of the world may have access though that is more difficult where there are no right-to-repair laws for consumers.
- The "PIN Service" option, we can get the PINs for you, no work needed on your part. We get the PINs needed with the VIN of the car.
You're in for about $100 USD to DIY, for the 3 day subscription to VIDA based on what a North American car owner has available. The PIN Service is $125 for the Sensus car (CEM PIN) and $225 USD for the Android car (CEM/VGM PINs). So you can decide on time vs money what's worth it for you. In any case, getting the PINs is a one time thing only. The PINs will not change for the life of the car, even hardware replacement (like new CEM installed with VIDA) the same PIN is written to the CEM.
There are other ways to obtain PINs that are out of the scope of OrBit. Some shops have hardware and tools to read modules like the CEM when removed from the car, and can retrieve the PIN information directly from the hardware. If you know a shop that can do this, or if you already have PINs obtained from this method or any other way, you can enter the PIN(s) into OrBit.
RE: What are PINs, why do I need a PIN, how do I get a PIN? - davelillo - 06-12-2024
hla, tengo varias dudas al respecto.
mil concesionario podria proporcionar ese PIN o ellos no lo necesitan?
RE: What are PINs, why do I need a PIN, how do I get a PIN? - x119 - 06-12-2024
(06-12-2024, 01:03 PM)davelillo Wrote: hla, tengo varias dudas al respecto.
mil concesionario podria proporcionar ese PIN o ellos no lo necesitan?
For a dealer VIDA will do the seed/key exchange - the PIN is used to calculate, but within the software. The dealer would not know the PIN.
OrBit can provide your PIN. You are then free to do as you wish.
RE: What are PINs, why do I need a PIN, how do I get a PIN? - Volvo_Nut - 11-28-2024
figuring it out.
RE: What are PINs, why do I need a PIN, how do I get a PIN? - nex4press - 12-27-2024
I have a CEM PIN for my car. How do I get the VCM PIN (level 11)?
RE: What are PINs, why do I need a PIN, how do I get a PIN? - VOLVO-pan - 12-28-2024
(12-27-2024, 06:31 PM)nex4press 公司 Wrote: 我有我的汽车的 CEM PIN。如何获取 VCM PIN（级别 11）？
对于带有 VCM 的型号，您只需要 CEMpin。
RE: What are PINs, why do I need a PIN, how do I get a PIN? - nex4press - 12-28-2024
(12-27-2024, 06:31 PM)nex4press Wrote: I have a CEM PIN for my car. How do I get the VCM PIN (level 11)?
I would like to block "Volvo On Call" in the VCM ECU and when starting the service procedure, VCM PIN level 11 is required. When I enter CEM PIN level 01 or 11 it returns an error.
RE: What are PINs, why do I need a PIN, how do I get a PIN? - Landsicksailor - 12-30-2024
I have the same problem, have my CEM Pin but need a Level 11 Pin for resetting the battery counter.
Can anyone advise or point us in the right direction, please.
RE: What are PINs, why do I need a PIN, how do I get a PIN? - laihu - 01-08-2025
(12-28-2024, 05:34 PM)NEX4 新闻 Wrote:(12-27-2024, 06:31 PM)NEX4 新闻 Wrote: 我有我的汽车的 CEM PIN。如何获取 VCM PIN（级别 11）？
我想在 VCM ECU 中阻止“Volvo On Call”，并且在启动服务程序时，需要 VCM PIN 级别 11。当我输入 CEM PIN 级别 01 或 11 时，它返回错误。
CEM 11 级 PIN 用于密钥匹配，
(07-16-2023, 05:29 PM)电源6 Wrote: 如果您是 Volvo/Polestar 的新用户，您可能对 PIN 有疑问...您知道任何其他获取 PIN 的离线方法
汽车和 ECU 在沃尔沃中的固定方式与其他制造商类似，但也有一些事情是特定于沃尔沃的做事方式。
OrBit 可以更改支持的 Volvo 或 Polestar 汽车上的“配置”或有时称为“编码”的内容。这就是 99.9% 的人购买 OrBit 的原因 ;-）OrBit 是工具，但您还需要对汽车进行安全访问才能修改配置。在沃尔沃世界中，汽车中的各种模块和软件部件都使用称为“PIN”的东西进行保护。PIN 就像密码。有许多 PIN 可用于访问汽车的不同部分，但对于大多数 PIN，您只关心更改配置的 PIN。
配置存储在中央电子模块 （CEM） 中，需要访问允许更改该配置的 CEM。沃尔沃多年来一直在使用“唯一”的 CEM PIN。您熟悉的其他 mfr 过去可能没有使用“唯一”访问密钥，但大多数最近开始这样做，它变得越来越普遍。每辆车都有不同的 CEM PIN。沃尔沃知道这一点，VIDA 使用 PIN 进行服务访问，但车主没有获得自己汽车的安全访问密钥。要获得访问权限，您需要为自己的汽车获取所需的唯一 PIN。沃尔沃和 Polestar 的“SPA”和“CMA”底盘一代中所需的 PIN 有两种不同的要求。
1. “Sensus” 汽车 - 所有配备 Sensus 信息娱乐系统的沃尔沃（和 Polestar 1）SPA/CMA。
- 这些汽车需要“CEM PIN”（这是沃尔沃世界众所周知的通用术语）。
2. “Android”汽车 - 所有沃尔沃（和 Polestar 2）SPA/CMA 均配备更新的 Android（又名 Google、AAOS 或“iCup”）信息娱乐系统。
- 这些车辆需要与 Sensus 车辆相同的“CEM PIN”。
- 他们还需要一个“VGM PIN”，需要解锁新的诊断防火墙以获得高级功能，这是在 Android 系统中引入的。
通常，您有几种方法可以获取 PIN：
- “DIY”过程，您订阅服务软件（Volvo 或 Polestar VIDA），然后使用该软件在汽车上运行一个进程并捕获 PIN 信息，您可以使用 OrBit “破解”该信息。该过程描述如下：https://forums.spaycetech.com/showthread.php?tid=2。对于那些可以访问 VIDA 的人来说，这是一个很好的过程，尤其是北美用户和世界其他地区的一些其他人可能可以访问，尽管在没有针对消费者的维修权法律的情况下，这更加困难。
- 使用“PIN 服务”选项，我们可以为您获取 PIN，您无需执行任何操作。我们获得汽车 VIN 所需的 PIN。
您需要大约 100 美元进行 DIY，根据北美车主可用的 VIDA 订阅 3 天。Sensus 汽车的 PIN 服务费用为 125 美元 （CEM PIN），Android 汽车的 PIN 服务费用为 225 美元 （CEM/VGM PIN）。因此，您可以决定时间与金钱对您来说值得。无论如何，获取 PIN 只是一次性的事情。PIN 码在车辆的使用寿命内不会改变，即使更换硬件（如与 VIDA 一起安装的新 CEM）也会将相同的 PIN 写入 CEM。
还有其他方法可以获取 OrBit 范围之外的 PIN。一些商店拥有硬件和工具，可以在从汽车上拆下时读取 CEM 等模块，并且可以直接从硬件中检索 PIN 信息。如果您知道可以执行此操作的商店，或者您已经通过此方法或任何其他方式获得 PIN，则可以将 PIN 输入到 OrBit 中。
谁有办法通过底盘号离线购买和配置测试软件，然后破解 PIN。
RE: What are PINs, why do I need a PIN, how do I get a PIN? - sprocket - 01-23-2025
Hi Guys
I have restore to OEM, dealer update car with towing, i back home and try to change back my settings but option "write to car" in Orbit configuration is inactive.
What should i do? I write PIN again and save but "write to car" is still out.
Additional info in orbit "User not licensed for flashing"
Could You help?
OK, turn off and on Orbit again and all back! Sorry for spam.